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Has anyone else out there grown disenchanted with the current state of the blogoshpere? I took 10 of what I consider some of the most popular blogs out there such as Don Box, Scott Hanselman, Joel Spolsky, Ingo Rammer, Martin Fowler, etc and read each of their 10 most recent posts. Only 12 pertained to something I was interested in and /or currently working on. I think that about 50% of the posts pertain to something that I may be working on 12 or 18 months from now and the 40% is just a repost of something someone else all ready said.

Us normal people, if I can be termed normal, just aren't working with the coolest, newest stuff and while that bleeding edge stuff is really cool, I just don't care about it yet. I have been saying the same thing for a while now and it is my only complaint about MSDN magazine. MSDN is part of the marketing machine but I don't think that the marketers really know how developers work. They may do studies but unless you are setting in the cube farm with us, then you don't know how we work. And, the Redmond-ites are not typical and studying them may lead you even farther afield than just guessing.

How does reading about the next gen tools help me right now? It helps me plan for six or nine or twelve months from now and a serious adoption of a suite of tools like Team System takes that much planning but adopting .NET 2.0/VS2005 is a very easy decision to make. If it helps me automate a critical business process or solve a real world business problem or make our applications easier to maintain, I will adopt it. If it doesn't help me right now then it takes a back seat to what is troubling me right now.

Some decent projects have been developed that effectively backport technology that is very new to what we are using today like Ingo's DetailsView control for .NET 1.x. However, the blogs and articles that focus on the technology that we are using right now get my vote. Am I being over critical? Maybe. But I am not envious of the toys of others. He who dies with the most toys still dies.

I feel that I know maybe 20% of the .NET framework really well, and another 40% remotely well, another 20% offhandedly, but I have never used the other 20%. That probably isn't suprising. I do want to have 40% in the first and 50% in the second before moving on to 2.0. If not, the newest features will get the bulk of my attention and that 20% that I have never used with just increase. It almost makes me sick to think about it. Posted on Monday, June 13, 2005 9:09 AM .NET , Musings & Ramblings | Back to top

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It makes sense to me that the folks you mentioned are posting about things that are future for us enterprise guys. They are posting about the work that they are doing today, just like you would.

If you are looking for threads on your work, it is reasonable that you should be the spark for that conversation.
Left by David Starr on Jun 13, 2005 10:23 AM

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Boo-YA Biotch. I've said this time and again. So it's up to us littleguy bloggers to pick up the slack and put some "here and now" goodness out there into the blogosphere. I'm not even gonna look at 2005/2.0 with anything more than a cursory glance because i have a year long enterprise project in 1.1 underway and pushing up against deadlines...I don't have time for the new...and I don't have the luxury of converting.
Left by Scott C. Reynolds on Jun 13, 2005 1:48 PM

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I second Scott but I will say that the 1.x framework is far from "complete".

No new icons. No menustrip, toolstrip, etc controls. No balloon on the NotifyIcon. This is stuff I expected in 1.0 due to my Delphi background (which had most of this even if it was buggy) yet now in 2.0 we finally get just a glimpse of what life COULD be like. To digress a bit I don't honestly see VS.NET reliably using the toolstrip controls because those things are almost useless but at least it's a useless jump in somewhat of the right direction (I'm partial to my ActionManager/Lists which were buggy but amazingly did the job).

I'm all for their beef up of the CLR and the cool new editions to the languages but honestly that takes a back seat. I'm a cheap bastage, so the more you can throw at me for free the happier I'll be. I don't expect the kitchen sink but I expect to be able to produce a reasonable application with the tools provided. I can't do it with 1.0, I refuse to acknowledge the version. 1.1 is a good start but those 256 color icons are slightly dated and are but a symptom of the overall problem. 2.0 is a good start though they're holding back a good bit of the potential.

Given a choice for a new project which would I choose? I would choose 2.0. I can do more with what I have and wouldn't have to purchase everything under the sun to have a decent development experience. I should be able to produce a decently equivalent .NET app as I would if I just had a Win32 compiler and nothing more. I gladly trade some of that in for the benefits of .NET but some of those benefits completely trample on a unified Windows experience.

As far as the blogosphere goes I don't really tend to care about the "big 10". They mainly play with their toys in a "let me show you how" approach versus a "let me develop something I could actually use in a day-to-day scenario." Scott Hanselmann being the only one that follows camp #2, but that's probably because of the Code4Fun stuff he's doing. Most of them tend to look at things abstractly rather than paint themselves into a specific corner and work their way out of it. That's fine but you have to understand their primary motivation for learning the tools and posting about it. It's definately us "little guys" that take the tools and apply them to our daily usage. It's up to us to give a more in depth study of a particular aspect, and honestly I don't expect that from any of the people you mentioned. I have a number of blogs in my aggregator that serve no other purpose than to build a knowledgebase of material that I will use "at some point". I need to automate this more but I find this to be much easier than searching for a particular topic. I can't always articulate what I'm trying to do and 9 times out of 10 someone else has already thought of a similar solution. It's also nice to bounce ideas off real people that think similarly even if they make you feel stupid afterwards.
Left by Jeremy Brayton on Jun 13, 2005 2:32 PM

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I said this at my talk at Teched - "I think it's great and shiny that everyone is here learning about Visual Studio 2005, but I've got customers moving money on NT4. I'll get to 2005 in the summer of 2006."

Everything I talked about, and everything I (personally) work on is on 1.1 and much is Open Source.
Left by Scott Hanselman on Jun 13, 2005 2:32 PM

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I think what is happening is that we are all getting to much blog matter from certain sources that are out on the edge. I read a lot of Microsoft blogs and enjoy them but they are all paid to puch the edge out and keep the technology flowing. Most people I know are just trying to keep up with the current stuff and do not have an incentive to blog or even to read blogs. Really a shame since they are the ones that could have the greatest voice and help the most. I would love to get a blog ring going of developers that are in the middle of the current stuff and ready to share ideas and knowledge to help us all get through the day to day stuff.

Which leads me to my new idea for a collaboration group called DigitalCabal. I will have more details soon.
Left by Chris Woodruff on Jun 14, 2005 6:38 AM

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